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I discovered three major issues in the usage scenarios of OpenVZ in the enterprise market:
  1. Installation takes time and needs Linux knowledge
  2. The missing GUI management
  3. And the inability to run unmodified guests like Windows on an OpenVZ host
I also had other wishes like integrated backup and restore, live-migration, central configuration management and integrated virtual appliances download. So I presented this last year to our development team – a few months later, we proudly presents the first release of our Proxmox Virtual Environment.

Now we have the virtualization platform for the enterprise, licensed under GNU GPLv2.

Proxmox VE is the only virtualization platform which can do all of the following on one physical host:
  • Container Virtualization (OpenVZ)
  • Full virtualization (KVM)
  • Para-virtualization (KVM)
We encourage everybody to test Proxmox VE and give feedback, for download and documentation please visit the Proxmox VE Wiki.

Feel free to get in contact with me directly - martin@proxmox.com.

Comments

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(Anonymous)
May. 7th, 2008 12:47 pm (UTC)
Proxmox VE Wiki link is broken!
Got a link for Proxmox VE Wiki ?
xomxorp
May. 7th, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC)
Re: Proxmox VE Wiki link is broken!
sorry, I used firefox 3 to post to the blog and it seems that the livejournal editor does not work with firefox 3.

I corrected the posting with ie7 - so you can now use the links.
http://pve.proxmox.com
gvy
May. 9th, 2008 09:56 am (UTC)
casual proofreading
BTW "Minimum 1024 GB RAM" sounds a bit ahead of time. :)

"15rpm SAS" probably is the three-orders-of-magnitude compensation, gotta 15kRPM SAS drives for another ALT Linux OpenVZ over here.

Otherwise, installation instructions seem pretty good; hope to find some time to play with downloaded ISO on the stand.

Thanks for discovering, working, and publishing :-)
xomxorp
May. 9th, 2008 10:17 am (UTC)
Re: casual proofreading
uuups, I corrected the value in our wiki :-)
thanks,
br, martin
maxim_shilov
May. 7th, 2008 12:59 pm (UTC)
where is "download" link? i would like to give it a shot
(Anonymous)
May. 7th, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
Iso install
I tried it already and loving it!
Feels very solid.
alexkuklin
May. 8th, 2008 09:44 am (UTC)

I discovered three major issues in the usage scenarios of OpenVZ in the enterprise market:

1. Installation takes time and needs Linux knowledge
2. The missing GUI management
3. And the inability to run unmodified guests like Windows on an OpenVZ host


Yep. Do you know anything about Parallels commercial products?
(Anonymous)
May. 8th, 2008 10:01 am (UTC)
yes, I know Parallels commercial products, whats the question?
xomxorp
May. 8th, 2008 10:01 am (UTC)
yes, I know Parallels commercial products, whats the question?
gvy
May. 9th, 2008 09:46 am (UTC)
Presumably that you've discovered an america :D
gvy
May. 9th, 2008 09:46 am (UTC)
*sigh*
> Proxmox VE is the only virtualization platform
As usual with such strong opinions, you are wrong.

ALT Linux has been doing OpenVZ for years, last year it was included in a stable server release (supported for 3 years). And we do KVM too. And Xen for those stuck with lots of older hardware. Yeah, we already dropped VServer which was the virtualization means in ALT Linux 2.4 back in 2004.

Would you please at least google things next time not to remind me of Fedora (Ubuntu, Microsoft...) announcements *please*? ;-)
xomxorp
May. 9th, 2008 10:06 am (UTC)
Re: *sigh*
sorry if I missed anything but I cannot find any info on http://www.altlinux.com/ concerning the installation and management of OpenVZ and KVM virtual machines - which management tool do alt-linux have?
gvy
May. 9th, 2008 11:09 am (UTC)
altlinux
That one is stale (afaih being reworked) -- current information is available on www.altlinux.ru; ISO available here; KVM is available in unstable and ALT Linux 4.1 (recently branched).

Management system is built upon Alterator, I've recently described it briefly in ltsp-developer@. Judging from the description, you have done considerably more even on OpenVZ management front alone (hence my interest and nitpicking :), and KVM is pretty new here although my colleague is actively maintaining the packages and using it.

Most information regarding ALT Linux is really available only in Russian... there are way more interesting infrastructure bits and pieces which aren't widely known for that reason.
(Anonymous)
May. 9th, 2008 11:36 am (UTC)
Re: altlinux
PVE management also brings OpenVZ resource Management to KVM, i.e. you can limit CPU resources for KVM in an OpenVZ compatible way. So both systems can run parallel. On all existing systems I know KVM can eat up all resources, which in effect disable resasonable resource control.
(Anonymous)
May. 9th, 2008 09:52 am (UTC)
Three questions
1. Does Promox conflict with command-line (and so automated) creation of containers?
2. Does Promox support reservation of openvz VEIDs to prevent conflicts?
3. Any chance of a non-iso download?
xomxorp
May. 9th, 2008 10:02 am (UTC)
Re: Three questions
ad 1: commandline is still possible, but you need to adapt a view things, to discuss this, is suggest you post our http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Mailing_Lists

ad 2: yes

ad 3: what do you need? see also ftp://pve.proxmox.com/

br, martin
(Anonymous)
May. 9th, 2008 10:47 am (UTC)
Re: Three questions
1. The advantage of using a gui for me would be lost if the code presumes that the commandline will not be used. I think a lot of people would need this, but I will check the link you gave.

3. With a virtual appliance I can't see what it's doing. I need the code for the web gui, the backend stuff, and information on how it all fits together.
xomxorp
May. 9th, 2008 11:11 am (UTC)
Re: Three questions
ad 1: Proxmox VE is not only a gui. it also takes care about the resource management between guest (KVM and OpenVZ) that this can co-exists on one host. and do not forget the integrated backup solution (based on vzdump).

working on the commandline is possible, but the gui makes for many people thing easier.

ad 2: please post this to http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Mailing_Lists
(Anonymous)
Jun. 29th, 2008 09:28 am (UTC)
Re: Three questions
hi,

Very nice project ! Will surely give it a try but...

ad 3: ... I'd love to make standard Debian installs then configure a debian repo for Promox to install it.

Congrats for the great work already done and, please, keep on !

Bests
(Anonymous)
May. 18th, 2008 05:38 pm (UTC)
Strange open source
Very strange project. Mostly no info about base distribution. And abount what software was developed for project. Strange, very strange.
(Anonymous)
May. 18th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Strange open source
Proxmox VE is based on Debian Etch and OpenVZ and KVM - everything is open source. so whats strange here?
muchikon
Jun. 30th, 2008 04:15 am (UTC)
I burn the cd, and the installation was so easy,
what a great tool, I was looking for something like this

My congratulations

Greetings
(Anonymous)
May. 14th, 2009 07:31 am (UTC)
GUI!?
Why in the world would you put GUI management on a server? GUI is great for the world of desktops but when you get into servers you need to drop the GUI and learn what the heck you are doing.

Also if you want this product to have even a remote chance at success support architectures other than amd64, all my testing servers are i686 so I can't even test your product. I don't have the resources to deploy this on one of the newer 64 bit machines.
xomxorp
May. 14th, 2009 08:52 am (UTC)
Re: GUI!?
There is no GUI on the server, the management is done via web interface. additionally you can manage everything via CLI (for KVM guests and OpenVZ containers).

32-bit architecture is not suited for virtualization servers, too many limitations.

br, martin
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